Name: PM Recovery Collagen
Brand: Thirdzy
SKU: 40483940040884
Price: 72.0 USD
Availability: InStock

FAQs

Product Questions

WHY NO MELATONIN?

Melatonin is a hormone that helps with sleep timing. It is found in MANY supplements that are positioned to help with sleep and has research to support its effects for helping with sleep timing issues.

Many people have tried melatonin, but either do not want to use it regularly or did not like the effects of using it.

Before we created PM Recovery Collagen, we were having trouble finding a natural supplement that was melatonin free. Melatonin is not a hormone that we think is worth using nightly. And we didn’t just want help falling asleep, we wanted a combination of ingredients that would help support relaxation, great sleep quality throughout the night, and improve recovery from physical and mental stress.

Here are some other thoughts from our co-founder, Dr Justine, about melatonin:

There is a role for melatonin use in short term sleep timing and rhythm challenges, for example to address jet lag.

Even in those cases though, most people are probably taking way too much. 1 -1.5g is a reasonable amount – but most people take really big doses in the 5-10mg range. It also seems to be the case that people using melatonin need to increase their dosing over time to feel the same effects, and this likely causes their body to produce less of its own.

For premenopausal and healthy people, the concern is that melatonin can have impacts on sex hormones and metabolic hormones. There is some research to suggest that there are suppressive effects on these systems. Consider that seasonally we have higher circulating melatonin in the winter when we are metabolically slower and many species that don’t mate in the winter have their sex hormones suppressed by very high circulating melatonin levels.

Basically – the long term positive effects of taking melatonin for sleep are virtually zero and the potential unwanted effects on other hormones outweigh the sleep benefits in healthy populations.

Dr. Andrew Huberman talks about this at length on his podcast if you want to get really into it. Check him out at Huberman Lab.

HOW DOES IT WORK WITHOUT MELATONIN?

For a supplement to help with sleep it needs to help either:

Counteract over stimulation and help you to winddown OR support your brain chemistry and hormones for strong sleep spindles and deep and REM sleep brain waves.

PM Recovery Collagen contains some of the best natural compounds to help do both of those things:

1. Collagen: The Relaxing Power of Glycine

Collagen is made of amino acids, most of them being the one called glycine. Glycine is known for its calming effects on the brain. It acts as an inhibitory neurotransmitter, which helps to reduce nerve activity and promote relaxation. By including glycine in your nighttime routine, you can enhance the quality of your sleep, making it more restorative and rejuvenating. In studies, glycine has been shown to help lower core body temperature, which is important for deep sleep and to reduce next day fatigue.

2. L-Theanine: Unwind and De-stress

L-Theanine is a naturally occurring compound found in tea leaves, particularly in green tea. It has been widely studied for its ability to counteract over-stimulation, promote relaxation, and reduce anxiety. L-Theanine works by increasing alpha brain waves, which are associated with a state of relaxation, and REM sleep.

3. GABA: A Neurotransmitter for Tranquility

Gamma-Aminobutyric acid (GABA) is a neurotransmitter that plays a crucial role in promoting relaxation and sleep. By inhibiting nerve activity in the brain, GABA helps to quiet the mind and prepare it for deep, uninterrupted sleep.

4. Magnesium: The Mineral for Relaxation

Magnesium is an essential mineral involved in over 300 biochemical reactions in the body. It plays a significant role in muscle relaxation and the regulation of the sleep-wake cycle by supporting your natural production of melatonin.

HOW SHOULD I TAKE MY PM RECOVERY COLLAGEN?

For best results, take it 30-60 minutes before bed. Experiment with the amount of water you dissolve it in. Using more water will mellow the flavor and it will dissolve more quickly.

PM Recovery Collagen was formulated to be used nightly. And our customers that use it very consistently see the greatest improvements to their sleep quality.

WHEN WILL I START TO FEEL IT WORKING?

Many people notice a difference from the very first night. The L-theanine and GABA have a gentle calming effect that starts to become noticeable within 30 minutes.

Most people find that with consistent, ongoing use, the quality of their rest and recovery continue to improve for many weeks. For people who are deficient in magnesium, there is a loading phase to reach ideal levels in the body. Joint and muscle building benefits from collagen can become very noticeable after 12 weeks of use, but the anti-inflammatory effects of the collagen can provide noticeable improvements in soreness sooner.

Shipping Questions

HOW LONG WILL IT TAKE TO RECEIVE MY ORDER?

Orders shipped to addresses across the continental U.S. and Canada are normally delivered within 5 business days. Sometimes orders can take longer than this, especially to remote destinations and/or during busy mail seasons.

If you’re in a hurry to get your order, we offer expedited shipping across the continental U.S. and Canada. Our expedited orders normally arrive within 2-3 business days. Sometimes our carriers disable expedited shipping from being offered at checkout during peak seasons, when they are unable to fulfill expedited service.

You will receive a shipping confirmation from us after placing your order, which contains tracking information, so you can check on the status of your delivery.

HOW MUCH DOES SHIPPING COST?

All of our shipping is offered at convenient flat rates.

Standard Shipping:

Continental U.S. and Puerto Rico: U$5.00
Hawaii and Alaska: U$15.00
Canada: C$7.00

Expedited Shipping:

Continental U.S. and Puerto Rico: U$12.00
Hawaii and Alaska: not available
Canada: C$15.00

HOW CAN I SAVE ON SHIPPING?

Since all of our shipping is offered at convenient flat rates, you can minimize shipping charges, by ordering multiple bags at once. This is an especially great option for subscribers. Either when you're setting up your subscription or by logging into your subscription, set your order frequency to every 2 months and the number of bags per order to 2. Voila! You’ve just cut your shipping costs in half!

Easily dissolves into any liquid for an effortless prebed routine.

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Why Have Collagen Before Bed?

Collagen is the basis of PM Recovery Collagen because it has unique properties that support sleep and tissue repair.

Here's what the science says:

3G OF GLYCINE

*3g of Glycine is found in 10g of Collagen

Taken before bed decreases core body temperature and significantly improves fatigue the next day.

SLEEP TIME

7% Average increase in sleep time when taking collagen & GABA together.

Collagen great for reducing joint pain and helping build muscle tissue

JOINT HEALTH

More than 20% improvement in joint pain after taking 10g collagen for 12 weeks.

Taken before bed, collagen provides important building blocks for tissue repair when your body needs it most. PLUS you get the sleep benefits of glycine.

Reluctantly Underwhelmed

I was really looking forward to trying Thirdzy out, especially after Jason Grubb endorsed it.
I've been tracking my sleep metrics for a little over a year now, and was excited to be able to see how Thirdzy was going to help.
I can say that my sleep metrics have shown that my sleep quality has goine down immeditely after starting Thirdzy. For the past 10 nights I have had more awake time and more light sleep, with lower amounts of deep sleep and rem.
Even from a placebo side of things I was thinking I would be better:) I will likely try and go the whole month to give this a chance, but at this point I am reluctantly underwhelmed and disapointed to say the least.
I love crossfit training and sleep is something I need to improve. As a business owner I don't have the liberty to get 9 hours of sleep per night. Was hoping the quality of sleep would imporove. I liked the "sleep harder. not longer" idea.
I can't argue with the data. My sleep has gotten worse corresponding directly with Thirdzy.
I'm not angry or anything, just disapointed.
Eric

Hi Eric, Sorry to hear that those have been your results with the product so far. Everybody's system is different and supplements can have a range of effects - but its really unusual to hear that your sleep quality has declined. There isn't a reason I can think of for why that would be the case. All of the science behind the ingredients should be helping lower your HR, improve your HRV and support more deep & REM.
Thanks for giving us your feedback. I'm hoping that some time for your body to get used to the new inputs will lead to seeing the expected improvement in your sleep efficiency. Keep us posted!
- Dr J

One of the best supplements for recovery and sleep I’ve ever taken. I feel rejuvenated, ready for my day when I wake up and ready to smash workout.

Taste is great and my sleep has improved drastically since taking it. Have always struggled to sleep, especially after long workouts or long runs. Taking this has seriously changed my life!

PM Recovery Collagen - Canada

Thirdzy has cut my recovery time down by 35% and makes my 4-5 hours of sleep feel like 8!

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Calories	35
Protein	9g
Calcium	15mg	1%
Iron	0.19mg	1%
Magnesium (as Magnesium Bisglycinate Chelate)	250mg	60%
Sodium	25mg	1%
Hydrolyzed Collagen	10,000mg	**
Gamma Aminobutyric Acid (GABA)	300mg	**
L-Theanine	200mg	**
Percent Daily Values are based on a 2,000 calorie diet. *Daily Value not established.

Price per Serving	~$1.92 / serving	~$2.53 / serving
Melatonin Free		3mg / serving
Supports Muscle repair
Supports Joint health
Contains Protein	9g / serving
Dissolves Easily In Cool liquid		Requries a kettle & frother
Available in Canada

PM Recovery Collagen

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Ingredients You Can Trust

3rd Party Tested

Magnesium

L-Theanine

Supplement Facts

Serving Size 1 Scoop (14.2 g)

Servings Per Container 30

Other Ingredients: Malic Acid, Natural Flavors, Stevia Leaf
Extract, Silicon Dioxide, Beet Root Powder (for color).

Collagen

GABA

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Easily dissolves into any liquid for an effortless prebed routine.

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Deep Sleep While Your Body Rebuilds